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Zimmerit on Churchils

Post by Peter Quambusch » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:40 pm

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Post by John Clarke » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:53 pm

Looks more like a Cromwell or a Churchill with a Cromwell turret with the sort of finish after I've brush painted :lol:
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Post by Adrian Harris » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:00 pm

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Re: Zimmerit on Churchils

Post by Stephen White » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:27 pm

According to Dick Taylor, there were three AFVs named Agamemnon during WW2. Given that the vehicle in question is neither a Sherman or a Universal Carrie, the only remaining possibility is that it is a Cromwell Mk IV, namely T187714, serving with 1 Troop, C Squadron, 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry, in 11 Armoured Division. I'm speaking to David Fletcher later and will relay any more info he may have.

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Post by Alex Easten » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:19 pm

Hope these are some use :)

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Post by Peter Quambusch » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:37 pm

Thanks for the fast Responses. Much appreciated!! :D
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Post by Adrian Harris » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:44 pm

Now we just need an Armortek Cromwell to detail with it... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Pete Mallett » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:38 am

These tanks are Cromwells of 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry and these pics, & the footage they come from, are very well known. The Zimmerit paste-looking stuff on these tanks is in fact Rubber Strips that were fitted, quite possibly in the field, in response to German Infantry use of Magnetic AT grenades (HHL-3 Hafthohlladung).

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Post by Stephen White » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:50 am

I've now had a chat with David Fletcher. He points out that 2nd Northants Yeomanry were the Div Recce Regiment for 11th Armd Div and as such needed the ability to produce effective camouflage for their vehicles. He says that the rubber applied to their vehicles was intended to help with securing foliage to the them and was not a response to German weapons. He believes that the British "Zimmeritt" was only ever applied to Churchills and that only as a trial. He's consulting another Cromwell expert to see if we can learn more. 2nd Northants were disbanded in Sep 1944.

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Post by Adrian Harris » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:55 am

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Photo: A REME sergeant welding damaged armour on a Cromwell tank of 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry, at 29th Armoured Brigade workshops, 11th Armoured Division, 8 August 1944.

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