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Logistics!

Post by Phil Young » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:45 am

Good morning all, I’m a new Armortek Tiger 1 owner and this is my first post, so please be gentle with me!
I’ve got to the point where I want to load my tank into my car. I have ramps (aluminium), but would like to know of any hints or tips regarding covering ramps with material to aid grip and also securing tank when it’s in my car?
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Post by Adrian Harris » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:59 am

I bought some diamond pattern rubber sheet from Ebay, cut it into strips and used Wickes spray-on carpet glue to attach it.

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It worked well for about a weekend, then the glue failed. I think it was because I was too fussy and re-positioned it once it had stuck.

Plan B, suggested by Steve Stuart, is to bolt a length of carpet threshold bar at the top and the bottom, to hold it in place.

Historically, I haven't used anything to hold a tank down in the car, though spinning it sideways does stop it from joining you in the front if you brake hard. Now I have a small van, I'm going to investigate using the load fastening points to strap things down.

I used to use a Mondeo to carry the tanks around, and found using a cut down pallet helped, because it raised the tank to about the level of the lip, which meant it didn't have to climb out of the load space.

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Post by Phil Young » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:11 am

Hi Adrian, thanks for prompt reply and information! So the rubber sheeting would be ok if it stayed in place? I’ll investigate securing solutions! I have tie down points in the back of my car that I can use, also ratchet straps so I’ll experiment!
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Post by Stephen White » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:33 am

Phil

You can find with rubber tread that the model loses traction if it's wet. Another solution is to use anti-slip tape:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p97962 ... BIEALw_wcB

I've found it works well, hasn't come adrift and does give your tracks a well worn look.
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Securing your model in transit is wise. If you have to stop in a hurry, having that weight heading for the front of the car is not a good thing. The models will move anyway if loaded fore and aft. I've used ratchet straps but haven't found them very successful. The problem is that there are no natural securing points on the model and if you've added detail, there is a risk of it being damaged. Steve Stuart came up with a simple and very effective solution. It consists of a rectangular framework of timber ("four be two") which surrounds the tracks. You can then secure the frame to the car with straps, although it's a pretty effective restraint acting as a chock. It's simple and cheap to make.
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Thanks Steve.

Welcome to the Forum. Do have a look at the Knowledge Base. I'll add logistics to the list of topics which should be covered.

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Re: Logistics!

Post by mark lawson » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:11 pm

I have found that carpet tiles glued and cable tied to ramps works very well regardless of its wet the tank doesn't slid it grips very well.
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Post by Adrian Harris » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:15 pm

> So the rubber sheeting would be ok if it stayed in place?

Yes. Much better than metal tracks on a metal ramp.

I did some pretty damp shows towards the end of last year and had no problems with the tanks slipping on the rubber, including the T-34, which must have the flattest tracks of any Armortek model.

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Re: Logistics!

Post by Phil Young » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:34 pm

Hi Stephen, thank you for the welcome and the information! Yes, I was talking to Steve at the Armortek open day recently and he mentioned his method of 4x2s!
Thank you Mark also for your suggestion of carpet tiles.
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Post by Mark Heaps » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:01 pm

I use these and am happy with them. They stow easily and the SDKFZ 7 has no problems ascending them into the boot of the car. Clearance under the hull might be a problem with some tanks, the side walls are 46mm high.

https://www.theramppeople.co.uk/telesco ... ip-surface

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Re: Logistics!

Post by John-Heaps » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:01 pm

Gents,
to help with grip on ramps i can recommend of all things, skateboard deck tape, its very grippy, a bit like course emery tape, it has a good glue backing (self adhesive) and its water proof and lasts well.

That,s if you can bring yourself to enter a skater place and be served by a guy who,s trousers are around his knees and addresses you as DUDE.

i can swear its good stuff, just go for the most aggressive grade.

Cheers
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Re: Logistics!

Post by Steve Stuart » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:32 pm

Now there's a design for a teeshirt; "Tanker Dude"!
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