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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:14 pm

Well argued Stephen,

After seeing the photos of the drawings, Kent's photo and some photos I have been sent as well as couple from my own collection. I think I can safely say there is an argument to say it would protrude out to at least halfway down the flash guard.
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The blown turret of 833. A discussion could be had that the mg had been forced forward by the blast when the engineers blew the two tigers up, it is possible.

Looking at the other photos I think this looks about right. I will leave myself the option to be able to alter it if someone can produce evidence that its wrong. a removable spacer should do. 8) :D
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Thanks for the feedback, its always great to have different opinions.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Per Sonnervik » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:45 am

As far as I can see there are no differences between the early or late Tiger I´s as regarding to how far the MG protrudes. Here´s an early version with a small protective cap on the muzzle;

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and on the late version (possibly also with the protected cover);

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Both photos correspond well with the original drawings.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Kent Wiik » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:05 am

Hi Per,

Thanks, that 2:nd photo ends the discussion.
Now we all know how far out of the mantle we shall have our Tiger 1 turret MG.

My point was always look for period photos and never trust drawings unless they are genuine WW2 ones.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:32 am

Lovely photos Per,

Well at least I found out before I made the modifications and its here to help everyone else. Thank you for everybody's input, it has been very helpful 8)

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:18 pm

Hi All,

Just a few more updates. I have fitted the drivers view port, and all the optics are clear and working. I fell lucky when some workmen came to work on a fiends carp pond and installed a 15mm thick perspex window, so I went into scrounge mode :shock: :lol:
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:24 pm

I have also finished the cupola, I have fitted perspex prisms to all the slots, unfortunately I cannot get a good photo as it is a little tight in there, so I am waiting for my mini camera to come back so I can take some photos. the shoulder cushions are all leather. now I can concentrate on making the water slide decals.
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by simon_manning » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:25 pm

these early cupolas are a difficult part to enhance more so than the kingtiger etc, very noticeable on top of the model as well, but you've achieved it there paul, a lot of delicate work, thanks for the post, regards simon.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:01 pm

Thanks Simon, its been a bit frustrating to get it all to fit and to get the right perspex. :D

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by John Fitzsimons » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:23 pm

Going well Paul, I got some polycarbonate in various sizes. No 15 mm yet though. Waiting for a small sheet to become available. The supplier is local to me. How are you cutting the Perspex. The supplier might be able to supply some cut for me. I have fitted 12mm blocks for now. You sent me a mail recently about decals. Can you send again as I lost original. I will see if I have what you need.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:46 pm

Thanks John, if you are struggling for the 15 mm let me know, the guys I got mine off cut me 3 strips and I bought a bit off them in case I wanted to do more. I don't think I will need all of it, and I am sure we can work something out. :wink: They told me to cut it with a tile cutting saw with a wet blade. as you can see by the photos in my thread it more like 14mm, but it has fit all the prism blocks. Ill drop you a email later.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:11 pm

Hi All,

Started to fit the decals I made, thanks to the encouragement of Mr White :wink:
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Could I add them to Phil's real or fake?

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Phil Woollard » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:17 pm

Yup! Do some of your artistic photography and editing and load away Paul. Lovely work mate. You might need to add a crew light to that interior for effect ,

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:17 pm

Thanks Phil, I'll try and play around with them between shifts this weekend.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by John Fitzsimons » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:57 pm

Looking great Paul. I might have a spare crew light you might want to try.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by John Fitzsimons » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:57 pm

Looking great Paul. I might have a spare crew light you might want to try.

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