Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Woollard » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm

Well the bench, keep it high or you will have an aching back, make it wide, use those sticky back emery dics stuck to bench top for flattening parts quickly and easily, good fluorescent lighting ( fluorescent means no shadows) I like to use jars from the kitchen for the various groups of tools, a decent vice with soft jaws, a pillar drill, a small lathe, a big lathe (not in shot), a grinder/linisher (not in shot), an extractor fan, loads of sockets , a radio, natural light but no bright sunshine so think about the buildings orientation and a great big heater that can warm the room in minuets for your comfort and for minimum spraying temperature, also a great big set of double doors to let the fumes out! 8)
Behind all that the hydraulic table with ramps.

Today's exploits below. Note you have around 15 mins to get the aluminium covered with primer once you have prepped it or it will begin to oxidize once more, spoiling your hard work!
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Key all surfaces with emery paper.
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That bright ring around the hole means it's proud after machining and needs dressing down flat
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I use a tapered reamer to just take the edges off but don't leave a tapered hole.
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Meths are a bit more friendly than some thinners or surface cleaners used prior to paint.
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I also like to use the emery sponge to key and flatten.
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Curing.
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That's nearly five big cans of primer today.
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by simon_manning » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:28 pm

Good post Phil, not every one knows the first stages and what they need, and the simple tools when you first start, regards simon manning.

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Post by Phil Woollard » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:56 pm

Well I can't spend to much time on every aspect of all the basic build sequences but here and there if it helps a prospect newby decide to take the leap and dive in then that's a good thing! 8)
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Post by Tim Carr » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:16 am

Phil
Thank You Very Much for doing this. I'm just starting back on my Tiger 131 build. Build it up a little and now about to take it apart and prime and start putting back together as I think she should be. So will be watching your build thread a Lot. Thanks Again!

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Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:48 pm

Started to assemble the lower hull and test fit the motors and the suspension units, all is going well.
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Don't be afraid of opening these mounting holes out just a tad, these were very slightly out of line.
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Remember my tip for flattening, use a stick on emery disc.
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Dawe » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:39 pm

Blimey Phil, are you in sprint mode? :lol: You are really cracking on!

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Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Hi Phil, well I did start very early as we do get up with the lark here in the sticks lol. It always looks a lot at this stage, this is the skinning your knuckles stage! The parts go in and the parts come out. 8)
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Post by Phil Woollard » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:34 am

A little more progress with a couple of important tips for the new builders. Please note, these are my own personal preferred methods of construction and may not be endorsed by Armortek.
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All the different suspension assembly positions are marked in pencil, take time to study this and get it right, I like to make up the units in pairs and fit each pair before moving to the next. I have added an extra degree of angle to each arm to allow for settling. A little oil is used on every bearing shaft, remember the nice dip and lift of the suspension? The o ring will keep the dust out!
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The first of the Gucci parts.
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Locktight at all the threads.
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The only way that I know to get the arms tight into the axle threads, make sure your vice has smooth jaws though. Polish off any marks prior to fitting
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Give the suspension assemblies a good clout with a rubber mallet to seat correctly but don't squash the o ring, do this before the locktight has gone off at the grub screws. Basically if any of the arms are not seated home against the hull side correctly the wheel assemblies will be out of line and it will not run smoothly, this also goes for the stub axles, they need to be in tight up against the arm for the same reason. All these little factors contribute to the vehicle being a runner and a very good runner! Remember the nice fluid suspension lift and dip?
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You will need this much leverage to do the m6 cap up to the correct tightness. Hand tools are designed with a factored in length to allow for a average user to be able to apply the basic torque value for that size of fixing. ( within reason!)
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All ready for another lot of primed parts to go on.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:23 am

A bit more done.
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New mounting holes required for the bump stops
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A tip to get the idler arm bolt holes lining up, you will struggle otherwise. The o ring needs compressing and so considerable force applied to allow the cap head to drop in.
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Do lock tight these motor mount cap heads as they will work loose over time. x2 will be hidden inside the final drive gear case.
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My usual greased final drive/gasket.
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We have decided to add all the out of sight inner wheel bolts and nuts totaling nearly 400 extra fixings
Oh the seal on the end of the sprocket shaft is just to cover that area from over spray, the build manual is not terribly clear where they go, they are gently hammered in behind the outer bearing.
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Post by Phil Dawe » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:25 am

Loving your work Mr Woollard! :D Seeing your progress photos sets me up for the day..... with a nice cup of tea!

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Post by Vince Cutajar » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:28 am

You are really flying along Phil. Wish you had started this build before I started mine.

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by andymusgrove » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:37 pm

Hi Phil

Speedy work my friend :D

One question for you, are you happy with the grub screws holding the axle's to the swing are and also the Torsion bars to the Swing arms?

i was thinking to pop a drill through prior to final fitting of the grub screw to secure 100% ?

Kind regards

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Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:13 pm

Hi Andy, yes the grubs are just fine but do wang them up tight so they bite into the thread. Use a quality allen wrench as a cheaper one may round off its self or the grub. You could drill a little way in if you feel the need, maybe 3 mm or so.
In the days before the grub screw upgrade I have drilled them right through and used a cotter pin but it can weaken the area.
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Post by andymusgrove » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:58 pm

That’s great thanks Phil 👍

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Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:23 am

The sun has been out which means ideal spraying conditions in the fresh air with very quick drying times. I think I may invest in the spray booth drying lamps for the new workshop, which should be built this summer.
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Nice drop of sunshine, the old range target gets a welcome bit of over spray to.
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A time consuming job are the wheels but well worth the effort, you can see the inner wheels which require the m 2.5 detailing.
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Hundreds of m 2.5 fixings which are plenty small enough, roll on the m3's .
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It will be a while before these can be bolted to the stub axles permanently
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