Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Steen Vøler » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:28 pm

Hi Ivano

I took a file and removed 3 mm of the tracklink part that face down and have the road contact, so it will be like it is heavily used and wormed

Hope this helps. Have no possibility to take pictures of this mod at the moment
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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Christoffer Ahlfors » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:36 pm

I also don't understand. That would increase the gap - not decrease it. Or?
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Post by Steen Vøler » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:22 am

My fault - my problem was slightly different.

I had a setup where the bottom part of the tracklink made contact to the turret side and the upper part was ok. Therefore I grinded the track link down to make space on the lower part.

What can be done to the problem that Ivano have, is maybe to extend the lower hanger from the turret side so that it sits 2.3 mm further away from the turret side. This will of course give a gap between the hanger and the turret side, but this can be hidden with milliput.

Or - if you have the tools - male a new set of the lower hanger that compensate the spacing challenge
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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Ivano Costantini » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:57 am

Application for the most experienced:
in my kit (2010 mid) there are all these tools, aren't they too many?
Where should they be placed? The instructions are not clear and even from the holes on the bridge I can't understand. Can someone help me?
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Post by Vince Cutajar » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:55 am

I think the pick-axe (third from bottom) and the small axe (fifth from bottom) are not part of the standard tools for the Tiger 1. The long spade or snow shovel (first from bottom) depends on the period you are building your model to. You also need a pry-bar which is not shown in photo.

I have the following diagrams for tool location depending on the period you are working on:

1) September 1942
2) December 1942
3) January 1943
4) February 1943
5) March-April 1943
6) August 1943 (Befehlswagen)
7) September 1943
8) October 1943
9) June 1944

If you tell me which one you want I can take a photo and send it to you via email. Send me your email address via PM.

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Post by Ivano Costantini » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:02 pm

Hi Vince
the pry bar is not present in the kit!
I sent my emails.
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Post by Vince Cutajar » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:12 pm

Hi Ivano
Photos sent via email.
Pry bar is not part of the kit even in mine. I got mine from FOA or you can make one.

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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:20 am

Good morning friends,
I hope you are all well!
The temperature starts to rise now I can go back to the garage to play with my tiger1. I would like to start applying the zimmerit on the turret ..
I did some tests, please give me your opinion Thanks
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In these photos you can see many cracks in the material,
it's normal? I used tile glue.
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The last three photos are another proof, used same material
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Post by Vince Cutajar » Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:35 am

Hi Ivano

It's good to see you back on the forum. I was a bit worried with the situation over there in Northern Italy.

Are you using ready mixed tile adhesive or are you mixing it yourself? It could be that the adhesive mixture is a bit dry and maybe needs a bit of extra liquid to make it wetter. I went back to my photos and did not have those cracks. It could be because it is drying too fast.

I used ready-mixed tile adhesive when I did the hull and it was OK. Later on when I came to use the same adhesive for the turret I found that it had dried a little. It was harder to apply and dried very quickly. So I bought a fresh pot of adhesive. Most probably if I had added a little water or PVA and re-mixed the old adhesive it would have ben OK.

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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:45 am

I found only one type of ready-to-use glue for MAPEI tiles. It is rather grainy and not very "pasty" when you use the tool to create lines, you drag and don't make the grooves. I added a little bit of tile glue powder to get a more grout-like compound and waited a little bit before working it. I will do other tests.

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Post by Phil Woollard » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:41 pm

Ivano we have been worried about you! That zimmerit looks great, it's not an easy thing to get right! 8)
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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Ivano Costantini » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:31 am

Hi Phil,
thanks for your interest, we're fine.
Yesterday after reading Vince, I did other tests for zimmerit but the result is always the same,
cracks appear and is very rough. this is the product i used, the only one found here before the virus. I also tried with a powder glue, but it is the same result.I can't get a smooth and smooth zimmerith like yours However, I enlarged some photos of real tanks and I saw that even the original one was rough and with cracks, I would do it like that, what do you think? Thanks Ivano
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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Vince Cutajar » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:29 am

Ivano, the last three photos look so much better. No cracks. Don't worry if it looks rough.

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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Marco Peter » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:47 pm

It's supposed to look rough. :mrgreen:
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Re: Tiger1 " tard-mid" !!??

Post by Richard Goodwin » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:41 pm

Impressive stuff Ivano; am in awe!

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