Tiger 1321 rebuild

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:25 pm

Hi All,

I have been busy adding the internal turret detail to my tiger. Hopefully once I have finished this, I will move on to the breach. Or I my just finish off the camouflage and get some enjoyment out or running it. That's the great thing about these models, you can always go back to them later on. 8) :D
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:25 am

Looks great mate, you have been busy making that lot. Are you going to ad the turret wiring loom ? Regards Phil.
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:04 pm

Thanks Phil, all of the turret wall stowage was made by John Fitzsimons, I just put it together and fitted it :D 8)

I presume you mean the Armortek wiring loom and not the photo below.
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In all the years I have had this Tiger, I have only used the gun elevation once and I have fallen out with the blank firer. So I don't think I will be fitting it. Well not unless I can find a way to re-position the motor and hide it in the gear box.
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:27 pm

I was referring to the 1/1 Tiger loom, it would take it to another level! :D
I very rarely fit the elevation system unless someone requests it as I hardly ever use it..Phil
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Hi Phil,

Yes I will be fitting that loom partially working, well the turret lighting at least 8) :D

My next research job is to find somewhere that can make me some glass prisms. I know Loic @ FOA has some perspex prisms which are very good, but I want usable ones. lavish and expensive I know, but I had a set in a previous model and they gave you a very interesting video view from the cupola.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:21 pm

Hi all,

Just a heads up for anyone upgrading the Early Tiger one with the three part sprockets. I had always known that my tigers sprockets had been catching on the drive housing, but laziness stopped me from rectifying it until now :roll:

When I have tried to fit the new sprockets they wouldn't turn so I had to investigate! I looked at the original one piece sprocket and straight away saw the problem.
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Original one piece sprocket with grove where it been catching
So I took the drive housing off and reassembled it on the bench so I could check that was all. as you can see the are bolts are also catching.
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New three piece sprockets with added bolts
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So I filled (yes filled by hand, no milling machine here) the extra detail off, checking there was enough material so as not to file through to the drive itself.
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Extra moulding filled away
There is just enough clearance now with the bolts filled down 8)
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Bolts filled down and we now have now clearance issues
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Adrian Harris » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:23 pm

I have to admit I did mine on the lathe, at slow speed and taking v e r y light cuts... :shock: :shock:

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:10 pm

Hi Adrian,

It was one of those jobs I should have done a long time ago but never got round to :roll: I probably didn't need to take the detail right off but I didn't want to have to go back later if there was a clearance issue. It only took an hour to do both hubs, so not too bad.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Hi All,

I have been quite busy with the Tiger but not a lot to show, its mainly been research and waiting for parts and tools coming. but today I have finished working on the Feifel air filters tubes. I asked Tim Catton to make the round Feifel filters for me and joint engine intake tube. Then 131 was released and I bought Armorteks 3d printed tubes thinking there wont be much difference :roll: :lol: anyway I managed to make them fit 8) I just need to make the holding bracket.
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Now its back to the breach, I will post some photos later.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:07 pm

Hi All,

I've been working on the breach and cradle that I bought. I have been using David Byrdens drawing to get it closer to the early tiger 1. I started with the cradle and replaced the PVC pipe that was supplied for one that was a better fit, 50mm outer, 40mm inner. this brought the inner more to 6th scale.
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Then I moved on to the breach and have added extra detail.
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The bolt detail on the Breach recoil beam wasn't that good, so I have refreshed that too.
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I need a bit of info if anyone can help. the photo below shows two lumps projecting from the top of the breach. are they round pins or bolts?
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Same on Tads drawings.
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:09 pm

Hi All,

I got the answer to the question of whether the two lumps projecting from the top of the breach are they round pins or bolts? they are bolts 8)
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So I have been busy working away on the breach, adding extra detail and the recoil function. the breach hole was too big at 26mm so I had to add a nylon insert and redrill it to 16.5mm to accept the ready mad ammunition.
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Then moving on to the Cradle. I had already replaced the original tube for a 50mm outer diameter and 40mm inner. I added a 40mm nylon rod which was the same length as the cradle and I drilled the center to 16.5mm. this now allows me to add the Armortek barrel and have the breach recoil.
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I will post more tomorrow if I get chance.

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:33 pm

I applied the correct pipe thread in the end of the nylon rod and attached the Armortek barrel.
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Then I attached the cradle to the mantlet with four bolts. It was at this point I realised the breach guard was too long and the wrong shape,
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So I have now altered it using the photos of Tiger 131s breach and it fits in nicely.
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by yves mouton » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:14 pm

Hello Paul,

Amazing work on your tiger build
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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by David Stewart » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:24 pm

Wow that is some stunning model making. Great work!

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Re: Tiger 1321 rebuild

Post by Paul Wills » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:30 pm

Thanks Guys, I was starting to think people were getting board with it. :D

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