RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

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Ian Rodney
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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Sat May 30, 2015 7:23 pm

….and now the coloured technical limber tow bar eye drawings…..

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20. LIMBER TOW BAR EYE PARTS.jpg
21. LIMBER TOW BAR EYE DRAWING.jpg

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Sat May 30, 2015 8:02 pm

……..just replacing one of my coloured working drawings!!

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22. LIMBER TOW BAR EYE PARTS.jpg

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Marcus Kwa » Sat May 30, 2015 9:22 pm

Absolutely stunning! What do you use to make these technical drawings?
I am still looking for a convenient way to record the measurements on my research topics. Also for possible later use for example to CNC-machine the part.
Up till now I just add them to the photographs I made of the subject, like below..........

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Marcus

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Sat May 30, 2015 10:47 pm

Hi Marcus,

I created these technical drawings using PHOTOSHOP…..but all made first by created free hand drawings, then the drawings are scanned in on a scanner, then save them on my mac. Next build up the images on top layer by layer using the tools to create what you see, although using Photoshop is good at certain sizes, but becomes very pixilated if blown up to large, and no use if your looking for fine details to work from!

I could have used a ILLUSTRATOR package which gives a far better cleaner sharper lines, and retains it's sharpness when blown to any lager sizes. Although Illustrator is good it takes time to make drawings using this package. But if I was wanting to produce drawings for publication then I would use Illustrator, saving the art work as PDFs. But even though I have made these drawings using photoshop, I could still save them as Illustrator drawings, but would need to re-create them using Illustrator.

I like using Photoshop, and as you can see does the job well enough for making my technical drawings.

From what you should me in your photograph is a good way of measuring up the parts you want to re-create to make. I can possibly use this same way of creating a photoshop version and create my drawings on top of photographs. Just all depends on what packages you are use too!

I have never used CNC- Machine cad drawings etc. Something I would need to learn to use. But I have seen a good few CNC-cad drawings on the Forum, and look good too.

Anyway glad you like my techie drawings!

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Ian

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Stephen White » Sun May 31, 2015 12:04 am

Ian, I'm hooked on your blog, it's always full of inspiring new stuff. I've never seen Photoshop used to create such professional exploded drawings. I have used the technique Marcus describes, to good effect but there are pitfalls in basing a part on 2D imagery, the evidence is in my rejects bin.

With my Cent, I've the huge good fortune to have Allan Bowers make CAD drawings for some critical assemblies. He's a master with Autocad but I suspect you need a lot of determination and time to learn such a full capability package. If you're looking for a freebie programme to experiment with, you could do worse than the package offered by RS Online. It's called Design Spark Mechanical and is available for download here:

http://www.rs-online.com/designspark/el ... mechanical

Google do a free CAD package too but I found it was orientated towards architecture whereas Design Spark is definitely for engineers. Worth a try.

All the best and keep the good stuff coming.

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Post by Marcus Kwa » Sun May 31, 2015 10:20 am

That is what I love about this site, there is a lot of knowledge and it is not hidden in tech-speak!! Hooked on both your blogs: Ian (since the T34 build), Stephen (epic Cent build)!!!!
Ahh, the rejects bin..... Yes, sounds very familiar!
Though I work mostly in styrene, what is quite forgiving when repairing a 'misinterpretation', sometimes its just not worth it. An estimated 1/4 of the volume of styrene I use ends up in the model.......
So I am trying to economise, especially since I want to use more metal (aluminium) in my builds as the bits tend to become bigger and bigger and more complex. :roll:

Let's build!!

Marcus

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Sun May 31, 2015 11:05 am

Hi Guys…….

Thanks for your kind replies…………..

I too have been hooked on your Cent build Stephen since day one, amazing detailed work on your build.
And the wonderful story that back's up to your Cent. Also I have download the RS DSM, thanks will have a look at that soon.

As for my T34-85 kit, it's been sidelined by my full attention to working on my Limber kit and creating these photoshop drawings.
I have decided that I want to create a few more working drawings before I'm truly satisfied to move on and complete the rest of the limber box etc.

As you say Marcus, it's great to share the knowledge that Forum members have on this site. No matter what professional background your coming from.

So Stephen keep the your Cent blog coming…and Marcus get stuck into using more metal like aluminium, good for the hands, not!

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:21 am

Hi Guys,

Back again with one more techie type drawing of the Limber Tow Bar Eye area, but from a different perspective angle. + a few pics to complete that section of my build. Time to move on and continue with the rest of the limber kit!

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Ian
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152. UNDERSIDE OF TOW BAR EYE SECTION.jpg
158. LIMBER TOW BAR EYE SECTION.jpg
164. LIMBER BOX TOW BAR EYE.jpg
166. SIDE VIEW OF LIMBER BOX WITH TOW BAR.jpg
23. FINAL LIMBER TOW BAR DRAWING.jpg

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Paul Morris » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:57 pm

Hello Ian.

Brilliant mate love it the whole thing is just great well done. :)
All the best Paul. :wink:
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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:38 pm

Thanks Paul,

That's just me, when I think of more upgrades to add I sometimes end up with working techie drawings, which of course slows me up getting on with the rest of the Limber kit!

But haaay I enjoy creating these illustrated technical drawings for all to see, and if it gives other Limber kit owners ideas, then all the better…yes…..

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Paul Morris » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:45 pm

Hi Ian.

Well you have given me more ideas than I have time for :D I was very lucky in that I managed to get hold of both the Limber and the 25 pounder from a total gent Mr. Michael Hilton but alas they are put aside on the future to do list .... one day .... eh, keep up the great work.
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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:00 pm

Well Paul,

With Mark's original designs of the 25 pdr and Limber kits and Dave's upgrades, that's what gave me ideas to add some of my own upgrades to enhance their inputs…..that's what inspires me!

Great you've got a 25 pdr and limber kits…well don't leave aside to long!…. but for sure will look out in the future to see what you make of these wonderful kits.

Of course I still think Mark should come up with a British 4x4 truck to pull them both, to complete the set of (three)!
So no more?

Cheers again
Ian

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Iacopo Di Giampietro » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:28 am

My compliments: work really very nice and pleasant to see even for those who did not buy the kit! :wink: :D

Ciao!
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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:41 am

Thank you lacopo,

For your nice comments on my limber kit and drawings!

I to like what you have done on your Panzer III and admire all the work you have put into creating such a wonderful model.
Also I have a unfinished Panzer III G kit to try and get back to some day!... hoping that it will turn out as good as yours!

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Ian

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Re: RODNEY'S 25 PDR LIMBER KIT

Post by Ian Rodney » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:39 pm

Hi All,

Finally moved away from the Limber Tow Bar Eye set up and did some work on the limber doors and tow hook at the back.

First of all I drilled out and cut a opening space for the small working hatch door, then using Dave's Armorpax upgraded of the small door hatch that sits between the two main doors at the back of the limber I made some alterations to Dave's small door and added new hinges and a working door handle, which turned out not to badly!…I did not want a static one!…...at least I have a working hatch that opens and closes now.
I have still to make a shelf that sits behind the small door, to store what ever the limber artillery men kept inside!

Then I turned my attention to Dave's limber tow hook, and made some small improvements by filling cutting away an area on top of the tow hook and added, drilling out a small hole to retain a pin that holds the tow hook together, apart from that changed four ordinary nuts that holds the tow hook onto the tow block to some of Steve Winston's castellated nuts.

Until next time…….

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Ian
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6. SMALL HATCH OPENING.jpg
10. UPGRADING HINGES.jpg
24. SMALL WORKING LIMBER DOOR .jpg
25. SMALL LIMBER DOOR OPEN.jpg
SMALL LIMBER HATCH .jpg
SMALL HATCH FOR LIMBER.jpg
2. LIMBER TOW HOOKS.jpg
4. LIMBER TOW HOOK.jpg
5. LIMBER BLOCK WITH TOW HOOK.jpg
LIMBER TOW HOOK.jpg

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