New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

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New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:08 pm

2020 will see the delivery of the new King Tiger and Jagdtiger kits. Based on the P45, I made the P30. In this build of the new engine, I will try to be more complete in the instructions, also making use of the photos of other modelers, who have assembled the P45, to which I would like to thank you in advance. I use the translator, so if something is unclear, please ask. As I have always said, assembly is not difficult, you just need a little patience. I started the assembly today, so it won't be fast.
The first thing to do is to mount the MDF skeleton. I use the vinyl glue that I also apply internally as if it were color. This is important to have a solid foundation on which to build the engine.
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:13 pm

I had forgotten the first photo, sorry.
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:38 pm

The engine skeleton has a symmetrical geometry, the right side and the left side must be identified.
Very simple, you can see it from the photos.
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:59 pm

There is the possibility to close the lower part of the engine, I suggest not to do it, but if you want to close, only after completing the assembly.
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:55 am

Now, after checking that the glue is dry and that everything is aligned and solid, we can start the actual assembly.
I use epoxy glue, because it gives me time to reposition the pieces in case of errors. However, I highly recommend trying 1,10,100 times before gluing, be sure the pieces fit properly. Once glued, it will be impossible to remove the pieces without damaging them.
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:24 am

I designed the engine empty to be able to insert something inside. If it is necessary to circulate air, these parts can be drilled on both sides. When it is painted and placed the holes will not be noticed.
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puncture only the internal part
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:24 pm

For the front and rear sides, the two MDF discs can be used for centering. However always check, remember that it is a handmade product and it is not always accurate to the thousandth, there is the thickness of the glue that can influence it, so it may be necessary to position it a little off-center (3 - 4/10)
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:31 pm

Always check that everything is fine before pasting
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If necessary, fill the level differences with sandpaper or a little bit of putty
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To hide the joints, and texturing the MDF parts that remain uncovered, I use a product called by us "cementite"

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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by AlastairCooke » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:45 am

Ivano

I am interested in purchasing a HL230 P45 engine model for my Tiger 1 build. Are the kits still available? I am thinking of fitting only a partial model probably from the exhaust upwards or from the centre of the crankshaft upwards. So if you no longer have a full kit I may be interested in purchasing some of the parts (rocker covers, carburetors, air filters etc.)

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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:48 am

The P30 differs from the P45 in the presence of the sirocco fan on the back. After this first assembly phase and before continuing, I suggest painting the internal parts. But do as you wish
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First of all, drill the base of the motor support. I forgot to do it, you must not forget it
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Glue the two parts of the fan together
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With the help of the small disc glue the support to the engine skeleton, I also put two through screws, for safety, but it is not necessary.
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Glue the engine flywheel onto the support.
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It should be positioned so that it is in the center of the box containing the fan

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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:15 am

You may have noticed that all the sirocco fan is not aligned with the engine mount or the flywheel, IT IS CORRECT
Maybe in my description I say trivial and obvious things, but for newbies I hope they can be useful. Please, if it is not clear what I am writing, tell me. I remind you that I use the Google translator
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:25 am

Sorry, I posted the same photo twice
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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:31 am

Hi Alastair,
i sent you a private message, tell me if you received it, thanks, Ivano

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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Michael Röder » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:31 pm

Hi Ivano!
Your engine is very beautiful.
Alistair idea is good, a engine from the exhaust upwards would be great, because of the space.
Regards Michael

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Re: New engine for King Tiger and Jagdtiger

Post by Ivano Costantini » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:17 pm

Hi Michael,
as I replied to Alastair, I did not design the engine to be cut. Of course it can be done but I can't guarantee the final result. If you cut in the center of the engine, almost all the pieces on the sides need to be cut and I don't think this will lead to significant savings. If you cut under the exhausts, you can completely eliminate the hips but, in my opinion, you must also cut the front and rear parts. Clearly this work will be done by the buyer and I do not guarantee the result. If there are interested people contact me privately asking me what they want to do and I will try to make the price. However, you will certainly save, but not much because of the more details and the bolts positioned at the top. If the reason is to save money, my engine is not cheap, I can agree, even if I repeat it, I don't know how much it will cost. If space is the problem, I think from the latest views built in the forum, it is no longer a problem using non-lead batteries. However, it is a pity to cut an engine that everyone said was very nice.
I await any requests. I hope you understand what I wrote! Thanks Ivano

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