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Re: Me Quad.

Post by Phil Woollard » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:48 am

And now to the gun. This kit has the improved tapered axle.
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I will let you make your own minds up on the wash technique, It's not as easy as it sounds but with some perseverance it's a very useful method indeed in what ever scale.
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It's all still very clean for my liking but chipping and buff dust here and there over a period of time will further enhance the Holy trinity.
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Made a flying start on the 25, lots of Armorpax parts to fit.
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Been sorting the traversing and elevation gears, they need considerable fettling for them to operate smoothly.
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Re: Me Quad.

Post by michael hilton » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:28 am

Hello Phil, I am keeping a close eye on your build particularly the weathering...excellent, brings the whole build to life. It's not a skill I have acquired over the years, there seems so much to do...not convinced that I am prepared to go the full nine yards however, I will give it a try at some point, with perhaps light shading. There is plenty of sound advice and information on the Forum...best wishes mate...keep on, keeping on.... Mick

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Post by Dave Dibb (Armorpax) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:59 pm

Fantastic job on the Limber Phil, I actually like it better with the traversing ring on as you have done so may redo mine at some point.

Hi Mick,

There are some really good acrylic washes and effects now in bottles from companies like Vallejo which I am using more and more.

Best regards

Dave
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Re: Me Quad.

Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:35 am

Thanks Mick, if you need any advice on weathering I am all ears and will point you in what ever direction you want to go, I am going to use the hair spray technique on the 25 pounder frame (sparingly I might add) to represent sand erosion on the upper surfaces. Your Panther would benefit from a touch of that.
Thanks Dave I could not have pulled it off without your parts.

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Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Some progress with the 25 pounder, I've been adding some of Dave's detail parts and checking the finish/build quality with the second primer undercoat.
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If you don't like adding rivet detail then it's not for you!
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Boy those rivets are the dogs dangly bits.
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That's my fume extractor in the background. Which means I can crank the temperature up and spray and glue to my hearts content what ever the weather and time of the year.
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It's fiddly work adding the brake assemblies but well worth the effort.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:15 pm

Some more progress with the 25 pounder. I have kept the 25 pounder in the Quad thread for continuity.
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I have turned the traversing ring transit leavers around and made new brackets.
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I think I have added all the weld beads
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I used the Muckleburgh example as reference for the recoil front assembly.
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Thought I better make a nice wooden seat for the little guys behind
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So a piece of timber glued to the ali seat post and then turned to shape
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Some wood dye and a heavy buffing and it's not far off the original.
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Oh and it's adjustable. Looking at the base now I think I will turn it down a tad as looks far to thick.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:26 am

The first of the breech detail.
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Dave sent me ID plate for the Limber.
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I would like to hide, by filling the m3 countersunk screws in the breech but they may be needed for maintenance.
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I will be machining the Armortek breech to accept the Armorpax shells of which I have many for the sunny diorama planned for the good weather lol.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:37 pm

A little more done the 25 will soon be ready for top coat.
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Nearly finished.
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Made a little, I think it's called "Dial sight number 9".
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Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:40 am

First of the top coats is applied, and some nice 25 pounders examples for reference.
The history of the 25 Pounder is fascinating, it's probably the most successful and the most famous gun ever produced, despite having a 2 part shell and case round, the gun crew would often fire around 300 rnds in a day (that's per gun). The Axis troops coming under fire from a Battery of 25 pounders, really believed that the gun had an automatic loading system.
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Note the weathering on the frame, the underlying green is showing through nicely, it's very similar to Axis weathering, although Allied paint/painting was of good quality it to would wear away in exposed areas.
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The ranging cone, I would like to add a lot more detail to this area.
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There's a long way to go with this complex piece, it has lots of hard to get to areas.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:19 pm

I reckon I am 2/3 the way through the weathering.
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Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:17 am

As the sun was out for about 5 mins. The first proving trials to make sure it's all working ok, and the Quad performs faultlessly. I was a bit worried about the power to weight ratio but she's just fine pulling up the steep hill no problem, there's loads of torque and if anything possibly a bit to much available speed. Now back to finishing the gun and tweaking the detail here and there.
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Re: Me Quad.

Post by Stephen White » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:38 am

Lovely job Phil, well done. The only thing which spoils the illusion of reality is the tyre inflation. Wouldn’t it be great to be able to simulate the weight on wheels deforming the tyres? Easy to do on a static models but not easy for a durable set of running tyres. I suppose you could mould them in a much softer material but that would reduce durability. Any ideas? Thanks for posting your build, not enough on the Forum. Stephen

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Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:48 pm

Well it's only a look see photo shoot Stephen but a good observation all the same, when I have finished the Holy Trinity (these things are never finished) and I shoot some proper video I planned to use dry sand under the wheels as this looks so much more realistic, also soft mud is good but not Long Grass as this looks pants! The Tarmac in these photos it far to flat and hard.

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Re: Me Quad.

Post by Phil Woollard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:40 am

Finishing the gun, weathering technique final stages.
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Washes added, it all looks very messy at this stage.
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Washes to the inside of the shield showing an area that I have started to rub off until I'm happy with the shading.
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The wheels and tyres get a going over with the air brush to.
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That's just about the shade that I was after with just a little rain staining from the bolts and rivets and fittings.
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The breech cleaned back.
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How ever grubby an artillery piece was in use, the gun tube was always kept clean and would shine just a tad.
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The chipping that you can see is a combination of the hair spray technique and quite a lot of my own method.
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The unit decals and numbers next.
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That's it for the breech, just needs oiling stains and the red adding to the handles.
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Re: Me Quad.

Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:15 pm

Very close to finishing the gun now, some pics of a wet Saturdays events. Once all is done the trinity will have to wait for some decent weather for a photo shoot, in the mean time it will be back to the KT make over.
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Added some detail to the ranging cone, enough I think.
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Just had to add some aiming posts, functional to.
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Not much more I can add now so that's about it.
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