How to avoid driving gear problems....

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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by Christoffer Ahlfors » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:20 pm

Thank you John!
That instruction clears the fog in the kit instructions. I have never accepted that it be essential that the bushing can move freely on the shaft. This is the proof! It is the sprocket that moves on the bushing when tightening!
Peter Quambusch wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:56 am
To answer your question, I use grease on the KT and Tigers hub caps
This must be an error in translation. There is no way you could possibly fit the hub caps with grease (Schmierfett)! Neither can you use the cone headed bolt. The hole in the shaft is now occupied! I wonder how you mean, Peter? :?
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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by Richard Goodwin » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:26 pm

John Clarke wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:54 pm
This might help fitting the taper locks correctly. Pop this into your web browser. It will also show you the correct torque settings for tightening up the grub screws. I should add if the key fills the key way head to toe there is a fair chance you could crack the taper lock when you tighten up. :cry:

Fenner Taper Lock Installationwww.fptgroup.com › dss › docs › 690_06_Fenner_Taper...PDF
Try this link instead.......https://www.fptgroup.com/dss/docs/690_0 ... lation.pdf

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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by John Clarke » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:32 am

Thanks Richard :D
That's a much better way to get to the PDF. :wink:
I haven't got round to checking the key and key way dimensions yet on the Chieftain. But as long as there's a little head room gap on the key it'll be fine.
I don't think the diagram on the PDF shows the tiny gap very well so I found this picture and snipped it. Although it explains removal of the taper bush, it also shows the gap and explains what could happen if no tiny gap is allowed.
Taper bushes are fantastic simple and often over looked device and are very effect when used correctly.
Hope this helps. :)
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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by Don Gray » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:27 pm

Christoffer Ahlfors wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:20 pm
Peter Quambusch wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:56 am
To answer your question, I use grease on the KT and Tigers hub caps
This must be an error in translation. There is no way you could possibly fit the hub caps with grease (Schmierfett)! Neither can you use the cone headed bolt. The hole in the shaft is now occupied! I wonder how you mean, Peter? :?
I'm still wondering as well what is retaining the hubcaps?

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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by Peter Quambusch » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:50 am

Don Gray wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:27 pm
Christoffer Ahlfors wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:20 pm
Peter Quambusch wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:56 am
To answer your question, I use grease on the KT and Tigers hub caps
This must be an error in translation. There is no way you could possibly fit the hub caps with grease (Schmierfett)! Neither can you use the cone headed bolt. The hole in the shaft is now occupied! I wonder how you mean, Peter? :?
I'm still wondering as well what is retaining the hubcaps?
The fitt of the hub caps is very tight. Thus a thin layer of grease (yes Schmierfett, no translation error!), is enough to keep them in place. The fitt is so strong, that you need a pair of pliers to pull them out! No screws are needed.
Lord, give me strength to change the things I am able to change.... and patience to endure the things I can not change :-)

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Re: How to avoid driving gear problems....

Post by Peter Quambusch » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:59 am

As you can see, the hub caps and the insert into the driving wheel are quite long, thus it´s no problem to do, as I described. There is no connection between the cap and the axle!!
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