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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Excellent Clip Phil, when the picture quality is good there's always the opportunity to get a good still for the files.

Michael C, when the Chieftain did the AC1, I felt the review was very commendable towards the AFV,
It certainly cleared up some of the stories of a twin 25 pounder armed cruiser tank from down under if it were true. It also showed what a nation with it's back to the wall could build to fend off a ruthless enemy in short period of time.

Certainly one in the eye for the British who'd fielded some pretty bad AFV's (Valentine and Matida 2 excluded) up to that point in the war.

Recently read the Haynes enthusiasts factual book on the Panzer V (Panther) (it was cheap Phil £3.50). It absolutely crucified it, other than having a good gun and decent frontal armor, it was difficult to maintain, liable to break down, with no spares, weak side armor and shortage of experienced crew made it effectively a piece of junk. This being lorded as the best tank of the war. Which doesn't any make sense after reading the book.

Criticism sometimes defies logic and context. One wouldn't say the Panzer 38 (T) was a great tank or even a good tank, but without it, Blitzkrieg 1939 one of the greatest tank offences ever could never have taken place at the time it did.

Like you say, just enjoy the clips, They'd never let me climb around inside the AC1 anyway. I'd usually damage myself somehow or worse. Getting out of a Chieftain managed to rip the pocket from my shorts :oops:
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Hi John,

We'll just have to agree to disagree on The Chieftain's analysis of the AC1, and Mr Dawe's Centurion thread is probably not the place to discuss it further anyway. Suffice to say, the Chieftain displays so much ignorance of the history and sprouts so much BS about the workings of the AC1 tank, especially/primarily in Part 2 about the interior, it's astonishing. What he does get right is greatly outweighed by what he gets wrong.

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Off we go then, teardown. It's all in excellent shape with very little use almost like new!
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It's just a matter of pulling it all apart and deciding what needs to be replaced and or be further detailed.
It's just a matter of pulling it all apart and deciding what needs to be replaced and or be further detailed.
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A little heat helps no end, it's better than rounding off the fixings.
A little heat helps no end, it's better than rounding off the fixings.
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The turret will need lots of surface texturing.
The turret will need lots of surface texturing.
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Parts everywhere, well on the bench anyway.
Parts everywhere, well on the bench anyway.
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Cavernous hull interior.
Cavernous hull interior.
A little heat again and a rubber mallet and out pops the final drive complete.
A little heat again and a rubber mallet and out pops the final drive complete.
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It's a big bugger and so lovely to work on.
It's a big bugger and so lovely to work on.
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Moving on, photos to include the planning stage of the final drive details.
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Letting in the taper lock just a mill or so.
Letting in the taper lock just a mill or so.
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After much head scratching the rib positions need to be realigned just a tad to fall between the non adjustable case fixings .
After much head scratching the rib positions need to be realigned just a tad to fall between the non adjustable case fixings .
There's plenty of material to allow for some serious milling.
There's plenty of material to allow for some serious milling.
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I will need to use the rotary table to machine the correct profiles.
I will need to use the rotary table to machine the correct profiles.
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Painting the interior.
Painting the interior.
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Developments, machining the kit locker lids and removal of the fenders.
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I can now get to everything.
I can now get to everything.
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Perfectly in line.
Perfectly in line.
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Machining the upturned locker lid.
Machining the upturned locker lid.
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Saves making new ones.
Saves making new ones.
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Nice bit of Machinery on show Phil, makes things so much easier, regards simon.

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So now you are "Windy Woollard" the Miller :D

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Lol, more wind than you would expect ! 8)
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That's Turkey stuffing talk Phil. Better out than in :twisted:

Nice work on the lids 8)
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Turn tuttle. Please note we are not in anyway criticising this very nice out of the box build, we "the Phil brothers" are just fussy buggers!
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The bazooka plate stand off brackets will need a stiffening piece in "tee section" soldered the entire length.
The bazooka plate stand off brackets will need a stiffening piece in "tee section" soldered the entire length.
Prepping the old welds.
Prepping the old welds.
New milliput welds.
New milliput welds.
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I shall set out the hull belly plate access plates tomorrow.
I shall set out the hull belly plate access plates tomorrow.
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Interesting choice of fastener for the axle, also the road wheel studs are not long enough, we will use nylocks on these which are pretty close to the stud nuts used on the 1/1.
Interesting choice of fastener for the axle, also the road wheel studs are not long enough, we will use nylocks on these which are pretty close to the stud nuts used on the 1/1.
The rubber tyres will need bonding again.
The rubber tyres will need bonding again.
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Belly plates. You guys may have noticed I'm scaling back on the content as I feel I post to much lol? So fewer words from now on.
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This one boss, I've dressed and trued it.
This one boss, I've dressed and trued it.
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Phil without posting the Forum is not a Forum, Perhaps we both post too much, i always look at other builds and good project build photo's are a must, plenty of newbies or potential builders like to browse before taking the plunge, i wish more builders would post, regards simon.

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Phil, In my opinion your photo /word balance is just right. Without the explanation its sometimes difficult to work out what the photo is showing

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Hi Phil
Don't cut back yours are some of the best and most informative posts on here.
I used you Famo postings building mine and it was a big help.

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As the overwhelming response was to post, thank you the chosen few, here is what I have been up to this afternoon.
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Belly plate access hatch bolt hole positions using the dro features to do the math.
Belly plate access hatch bolt hole positions using the dro features to do the math.
How did I ever do without it?
How did I ever do without it?
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I'm just using the three jaw chuck to hold the work piece, I'm not using a rotary table.
I'm just using the three jaw chuck to hold the work piece, I'm not using a rotary table.
I would recommend this piece of hardware for the serious metal worker, this will save me hours.
I would recommend this piece of hardware for the serious metal worker, this will save me hours.
Perfectly center drilled mounting bolt positions.
Perfectly center drilled mounting bolt positions.
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Just punch in the figures and it calculates the x and y coordinates.
Just punch in the figures and it calculates the x and y coordinates.
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