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T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 7:19 am

Hi, first post in the overhaul of a good mates T1. This old girl was completed in 2003 and has been a shelf queen ever since. I received her about a week ago with the orders to get her going again and give her a face lift. My plan is to give her a light overhaul to start with. Get her running and let her settle into her skin. Then at a later date we'll go all out on her.
Her arrival.
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The workshop. :wink:
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 7:24 am

Full clean out
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Onto the road wheels
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 7:28 am

All back together now and time for a light wash and detailing. This step will take me well into next week. :wink:
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 7:29 am

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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 7:32 am

Question, there's movement back and forth in the idler set up. I've followed the plans but I must be doing something wrong. How does this system work?
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Sun May 27, 2012 8:24 am

Also what's the best to use to simulate an antenna?
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Adrian Harris » Sun May 27, 2012 12:30 pm

> I've followed the plans but I must be doing something wrong. How does this system work?

Could you post a picture of the inside and outside of the adjustment screw, as this seems to be something which gets put together wrongly on these Tigers :?:

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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby John Fitzsimons » Sun May 27, 2012 6:29 pm

Make sure the head of the adjusting screw is inside the cup and not screwed in from outside the tank.
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Mon May 28, 2012 8:35 am

Ok, outside idler set up.
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Cap removed
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Inside
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I've not fitted the track yet, but there's a mm or two movement back and forth with the idler wheels.
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Mon May 28, 2012 8:42 am

Can I also get some help with the wiring set up lads. I'm using an DX6i radio with no recoil fitted.
Can anyone tell me what these two are used for?
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The wires from the sound unit are a mess, can anyone please shed some light on this mess?
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When I connect the elevation motor, it runs constantly (up) I'm taking it that these micro switches turn that set up on and off. Can anyone please help here to?
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Sorry the wiring on this old girl is a mess and I'm not that good with wiring diagrams. :wink:

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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Mon May 28, 2012 10:33 am

John Fitzsimons wrote:Make sure the head of the adjusting screw is inside the cup and not screwed in from outside the tank.

Mate are you saying the adjusting screw never leaves the hull? So if I turn the brass cup around and place the screw inside the hull I should be right?
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby John Fitzsimons » Mon May 28, 2012 11:12 am

Yes, i think the brass cup may be wrong way round. Head of cap head will then press against the inside of the cup. I think that is right. Thats how mine is set up but i could be wrong. I will have a look at the instructions again tonight. Looking at your pictures the cap head looks like it is pushed forward by the inspection cover and i think this would explain the play.
I am terrible with electronics. The switches limit the elevation. On mine there is a long wiring loom with black heatshrink. Four connectors 2 red to topmost and bottom connectors on the limit switches and the coloured to the inner connectors. I will be connecting mine up this week and i will let you know how i get on. I think my wiring is different to yours though. Do you have instructions for set up. Gill might send you some .
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Mick Coleman » Mon May 28, 2012 12:04 pm

Thanks mate, I do have the instructions I'm just trying to make heads or tails of it. :lol: Electronics hate me! :wink:
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby Armortek » Mon May 28, 2012 1:27 pm

Hello Mick

With regard to your track adjuster, the cup should be on the inside of the hull with the cap head screw sitting in it. The track tension holds it in place. To tighten, the bolt is "unscrewed", which pushes the arm away from the rear plate. You should have about 20mm travel.

The two wires in your picture from the control box are for your 5Volt battery supply. (you will need a seperate 5Volt battery for your model) The socket connects to the battery, the plug connects to your reciever. Operating the switch on the control box then switches both your radio and main batteries on and off.

You will need to refer to your instructions with regard to the old type sound unit you have. It is too complicated to explain here. We can send you a new copy if you need it.

Generally take care, because you have a very old model, and most of the advice coming from other bulders here will refer to more recent builds, and may not apply to your model. You also have the option to upgrade to the new module system if you prefer, this is much easier to set up and use.
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Re: T1 overhaul

Postby John Fitzsimons » Mon May 28, 2012 2:52 pm

That's good anout the track adjusters. I was expecting a load of posts saying I had it wrong. I had it same way as you at one time.
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