Kill rings - black or white?

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Kill rings - black or white?

Post by Stewart Ashton » Sun May 24, 2009 7:19 pm

I thought there was something missing :?

Having looked at dark camo guns they all have white barrel rings
painted on and then I found a sand coloured gun with black ones.

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It makes sense but is it correct?

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Mon May 25, 2009 7:38 pm

This photo shows the kill rings for vehicles and aircraft

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Accurate or not it looks good. Three vehicles four aircraft.

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Mon May 25, 2009 10:08 pm

Stewart

I've taken this picture in 2007 in the museum of Saumur (France)
It should be the original colours...

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Mon May 25, 2009 10:20 pm

Hi Sven
Yes thats the three colour camo for the battle of the bulge era
and if you look at my 88 post you might well recognise the clipped number plate :lol:

catch 22?

Or is it?

I think that the individual commander would designate what colour
rings to paint the kill rings assuming he cared or could even get hold
of any paint?

Food for thought or utter carp?

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Tue May 26, 2009 7:18 am

Stewart

Something i found in the book :
Die 8,8 Flak im Erdkampf-Einsatz
Janusz Piekalkiewicz

Maybe this can help you find the answer

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White Markings
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A lot of White Markings
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You're second picture ? (Creil,city nord of Paris)
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Last but not least Black and White markings ? ? ?
Nord-Afrika, Shortage of paint or is there a meaning...?

Havent red the book so far,its in German wich takes a bit more time to read...

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Tue May 26, 2009 11:40 am

Hi Sven,
It certainly looks as though white were applied to dark coloured
guns and black to sand ones.

Yes the second picture is the Creil gun;

http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/gu ... r/flak_36/

There are some wonderful photos here.

http://svsm.org/gallery/88mm-Flak-36

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Ps thanks for the email.

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Tue May 26, 2009 3:42 pm

Stewart

In the last picture they used both marking colors... :shock:

It sure is a beautifull peace of equipement the 88...
My hart bleeds nowing when i was to young there was still one standing in a field here in Belgium.Off course this day it is already long gone, if not it would be standing in my garden.

Pitty that Armortek has no more models and they're not gonna build them anymore...

If the pictures i sent could be of any help, i'm glad...

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Tue May 26, 2009 3:48 pm

:?

Looks like it will remain a mystery Sven :roll:

You never know someone might come along and give us the correct
answer :?:

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Tue May 26, 2009 6:30 pm

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

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LOL the issue is as clear as mud now :?

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Tue May 26, 2009 7:04 pm

Stewart

Its a model not to be the real deal...

Try to find pictures from the real thing and make your model like that one.
That way you already now its accurate... :lol:

What it means will come later i hope... :?

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Wed May 27, 2009 3:00 pm

Fed up of looking Sven.

Ive done black ones :lol:

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Wed May 27, 2009 3:32 pm

Stewart

:D Are you sure :D
Just joking..
Maybe someday someone will give a good explanation and then you can redo it...

Enjoy your build... :wink:

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Post by Stewart Ashton » Thu May 28, 2009 2:41 pm

:D :D :D

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and

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And that as they say is the end of this saga for me anyway :lol:

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Post by Sven Strobbe » Thu May 28, 2009 3:45 pm

Now you can start shooting them down :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Tim Bowman » Thu May 28, 2009 4:24 pm

Hi Stewart

I've been enjoying the "kill ring" thread. :D

I don't think there was a "wrong" choice for you. Black or white. I'm sort of partial to the subdued look of the black ones though. Well done!

I think the armor/ship/plane silhouettes painted over the stripes is a cool look too. I haven't seen that before.

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Tim
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