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Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:45 am

More progress to the deck tools and the front fenders. the crew external vent cover has had the incorrect lower section simply turned down but with a shoulder left in place to allow the correct gap height from the deck.
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All the tool except the pick axe riveted in place
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I'm using the double rivet method to hold the tool clamps in place.
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The armorpax upgrade latch kit for the upgraded fenders. I have further upgraded to even smaller m2 bolts and wing nuts, so now even more in scale and with nice slotted stays and no folding required. The pack of m2 fixings and the smaller wing nuts are on the left for comparison.
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We are using upgraded fenders and they have upgraded fender latches from Armorpax, I need to find a good reference photo of the latch area to position the stays in the correct place.
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It's not easy folding/rolling those hinge tabs as they are quite thick.
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Naked but nice.
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by mark lawson » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:49 am

The mudguard slides are from Werkstatt - 5, I think this picture is what you are looking for Image
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Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:32 pm

Cheers Mark, that's the Johnson! 8)
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Woollard » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:26 am

I'm back on the case, the Protze is now in Germany and the Cruiser will be on it's way to Florida very shortly. Finished the front fenders, started "first filling" of the plate tenons, the small hoist lugs are in and some milliput welds in place.
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A tip, use the two stage filling method as you will never get a smooth flat finish where it matters otherwise. so "pug the majority of the hole, let it cure then finish with another application to get it perfectly flat.
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The wires going to the driving lamp pass through the Glasis plate as close as I can get them to the underside of the bracket.
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I used a milling cutter to bore the hoist lugs out as you just can't get the hole central using a centre pop and a pillar drill.
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Almost perfect, well as close as I'm going to get it! Notice the slight lift angle on the latch slide, if you don't do this it will scratch the paint.
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I think I'm going to add the tiny hinge and angle stay weld details, a bit small but will show all the same
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Kent Wiik » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:20 am

Nice work Phil.

Did you add the triangular support under the Bosch lamp bracket?
I used it to cover the wires under the welds.

https://www.armortek.co.uk/Forum3b/view ... f=10&t=754

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:40 am

Not terribly exciting as I am well into the zim application stage, so a few days with my head down now.
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Staining the real wood tool handles.
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Using a straight edge to align the stand offs after applying a drop of cyno.
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Not my favourite job but very important.
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If you use a shielded razor you can neaten the weld edges up nicely, not to nicely though as the welds were seldom perfect often due to interruptions in the war time power supply.
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The tiniest welds seems ever I think, it only works on the fixed segment of the rolled hinge.
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Although we are going to zim the vehicle the plate fixings still need to be filled or the divet will show.
Message for the boss, we are going to need some nicer track rope clamps!
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Post by florian rudolf » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:10 am

Nice applications Phil.
Looking forward to see more of that ;)

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Allan Shannon » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:31 pm

Phil

Love this build! I like the way you explain what it is you are doing and how you do it and the reason why you do it! This is of great help to me as a novice Tiger 1 builder.

How do you get the filler caps right down as mine are real tight and have a 3mm gap, also what tool do you use? I had to use a bottle opener as that was wide enough and had a blunt edge.

Many Thanks Allan

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Post by Phil Woollard » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:26 pm

Hi Allan, nice to know my words are helpful, we could almost write a workshop manual! Those filler caps were tight so you have to clean the threads up a lot, I use a rotary wife brush which destroys your finger tips but works really quickly, basically the threads are proud so you have to wear them down, you could use a file also but that would look messy.

To tighten the filler caps I used a piece of flat ali stock that just slotted in the cross, then a small adjustable to turn the ali with some force, the Ali is softer than the brass so it won't damage the cap even if it slips out!

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Post by Phil Woollard » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:34 am

Not much to show I'm afraid.
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I am replacing the hull m3 hex with countersinks, they need to be filled and hidden under the zim.
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The tools and ropes painted in base coats put to one side as we dont want them damaged.
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Is it worth creating the weld detail as we are going to zim the vehicle? Well the real thing would have areas showing through the cracked and chipped coating so we will have the same.
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The tiny weld seems look .....tiny, and will be hard to see.
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I'm almost ready to flip the hull over to work on the milliput welds on the belly.
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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Vince Cutajar » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:00 am

Thanks for the updates Phil. What colour did you paint the tow ropes? Gun metal? Will you be doing the same for the track rope?

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Post by Phil Woollard » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:11 am

Hi Vince, I tend to create my own colours by applying the upper coats over the tacky base coats, in this case matt black over still tacky matt grey, I sometimes use red oxide to, then rub away at the cured paint (randomly but don't over do it) until it looks about right. Highlight with a dry brush to finish, that could be buff, flat ali, mud what ever you have in your paint box really. 8)

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Post by Vince Cutajar » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:19 am

Thanks Phil. Will have to experiment. During my build, the thing that worried me most, is how to finish these three ropes.

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Stephen White » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:14 am

Phil, you're doing a great job with the Tiger, an inspiring build to follow. You're showing the limitations of Milliput and you're pushing it as far as it will go. Once it gets below about 1mm in width, it has problems and the detail suffers. 1mm in 1/6th is of course 6mm full size, which is unrepresentative of a lot of weld seams, so however fine you make it, at the smaller scales it will still look out of scale. It's also difficult (and tedious) to represent the weld beads with a stylus. There is also a problem with its fragility and inability to stick to outside bends, in areas such as seam welds. For those, there is a remedy, using fabric paint. I've mentioned it a number of times and this is the sort of result it can give, without a lot of effort:

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The paint dries with a degree of flexibility, so if you bash it, it will come loose but a dab of cyano always fixes that. It's the only way I know to beat the limits of Milliput. It's also a lot easier to apply, just put it into a syringe and squeeze it out along the seam in dabs.

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Post by Phil Woollard » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:29 am

The engine bay parts arrived yesterday, and more milliput applied. I have used the trade name "milliput" more than once 8)
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We have most of the engine bay fittings so not so much scratch building for me....yeah right,!
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The lower fuel tanks. Good casting these.
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The cooling fan castings, more fetling required as the resin is all over the place but they WILL look excellent.
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The resin radiators in the raw, there's a lot of fetling to get these pieces straight and true.
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The fuel tank shrouds. not bad castings
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The beginnings of the milliput weld seam, I may have a good proportion of this weld showing through the zim so i have spent more time with the "stick weld" detail.
A tip, wet the area that you want the milliput to stick to, place your bead using your finger and a wetted small paint brush, then with your finger start to gently rub/push the bead into the gap allowing the bead to spread to the required width, use a razor blade to trim to size. when the bead is cured run some cyno down into and behind the joint that wont be seen, this makes for a very strong bond indeed.
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The milliput is underway on the rear plate. As we are at the rear plate, I want to expose one of the exhaust stacks (leave one of the shields off) and so need the correct casting numbers on the Armour piece, anyone have any info, as i am confused with many examples that i have researched ?
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As there's not enough meat on the bullet ring I have used milliput (good ol milliput) for the front edge angle, this is not representing a weld it's an angle.
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A tricky little job to get to, milliput welds around the uneven fender hinges, the main weld will be covered with zim so iv'e not spent that much time on that detail.
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