Panzer IV H photos from Kalemegdan Museum Belgrade

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Panzer IV H photos from Kalemegdan Museum Belgrade

Post by John Fitzsimons » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:12 pm

I was visiting Belgrade last week and took some photos of tanks on display. Of special interest to me is the Panzer IV H as I have one on order. The tanks are in an open display and open to the weather. They do not seem to have restrictions on climbing up for photos.

I will not load all photos but have about 200 so if you are looking for somthing in particular let me know and I will see if I have that detail. I expected to find more casting numbers but found less than I expected.

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Re: Panzer IV H photos from Kalemegdan Museum Belgrade

Post by Steve Lewington » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:49 pm

Hi John
Love the photos as I to have a panzer iv on order.
Looking forward to the next batch you know the old saying a pitcher is worth a thousand words.
Looking at your photos how very true that statement is.
Love the close up detail shots.
Thank you so much for shearing them. :P
All the very best
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Post by John Fitzsimons » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:15 pm

No problem Steve, I have one on order too. Some more photos.

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Post by Graham Ord » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:38 am

Heres a link to some more, I may have posted it before but with the renewed interest and impending kit with new buyers you may have missed it.
http://news.webshots.com/album/560428634mKebeE
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Post by Steve Lewington » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:22 pm

Hi Graham
Nice one mate thank you for the link again some good photos.
Many thanks
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Post by John Fitzsimons » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:07 pm

Great photos Graham. Hopefully you will have lotsmoe company in the Panzer IV section soon. I wave followed your Panzer IV with interest. She looks great.
Some photos of the Bovington Panzer IV would be great if anybody has some.

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Post by Tim Bowman » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:47 pm

Hi John

Very nice photos. Interesting too. Must be a very early ausf H as it has the pistol port still on the rear of the turret. Hope you had a nice trip.

As Graham said, incase others are interested or missed it, I have 100s of photos of the Ausf J up at Jacques Littlefield's collection and will try and update this page on my site in time for everyones builds. At the moment, there are only a few running gear photos but I have every inch of the vehicle photographed.

http://thepanzertrap.com/panzertrap_panzerIVphotos.html

Happy Panzer IV-ing!

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Post by John Fitzsimons » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:28 pm

Hi Tim, I have taken quite a few photos at the museum. I will upload more soon. Just sent you a pm regarding Stug 111 photos. Also have photos of Panze 1 and Panzer 11, couple of Stuarts and 2 T34 variants. I'm in France for the rest of June so no work on my Tiger but I did get the tracks on before I left.

In relation to the Panzer IV. I also took measurement from quite a few of the nuts bolts and rivets.

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Post by Robert E Morey » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:38 am

John,
Thanks for posting these pictures. She looks pretty stripped down but still some good details to be had. Kind regards, Bob

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Post by Fabrice Le Roux » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:06 pm

Hi John,
Super set of photos.

They have cleared up a detail that I had been wondering about. Back in 08 I took a bunch of pics of the Bovington PzIV. The pattern of the treadplate on the track covers struck me a being totally different to the hobnail pattern on the PzIII. This hobnail pattern is common to many German AFVs so I had considered that the PzIV might have been restored at some stage.

Not so, as your pics prove.

I hope Mark has picked up on this and will provide the right treadplate with the forthcoming kit.

Thanks for posting.
cheers, Fabrice

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Post by John Fitzsimons » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:38 pm

Hi Fabrice, A correct treadplate would be nice. I was expecting just plain sheet. Looking forward to seeing exactly what will be included in the kit. I will add more photos soon. The Stug III on display had a different pattern.


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Bob I would say the tanks here were slightly neglected. In some cases visitors were dumping litter insise the exhibits.

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Post by John Fitzsimons » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:37 pm

Hi all,

I just recently found that I can post a direct link to me Photobucket folder on the Panzer IV. So here it is.



http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/ac24 ... itzsimons/

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Post by Fabrice Le Roux » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:56 pm

Hi John,

Yes, that is a super photo of the "hobnail" pattern plate. You can see that the raised bumps are almost square, like flattened pyramids.

I was toying with getting a heavy foil covered paper embossed with these patterns to sell on to fellow modellers. Much much cheaper than photo etching, easy to glue onto sheet alu or steel shimstock. Painting/weathering no problem, and easy to repair for those who enjoy a working model.

cheers, Fabrice

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Post by John Fitzsimons » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:23 am

I have photos of the Stug III, Panzer I, Panzer II, Stewart if any body would like them. Did'nt post them as Armortek do not make models of them.

http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/ac24 ... itzsimons/

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